If you have an appreciation for honest and sometimes irreverent conversations and community surrounding walking alongside neurodiverse humans, you have found your home.
Welcome to all things, "You Don't Want a Hug ... Right?" At the core of our work, we exist to honor the delight and hilarity in the midst of the hard of our journeys with the goal of offering dignity to the neurodivergent community through everything we do.
Meet Your Podcast Hosts...
We're Kristen (the one laughing) and Gwen (the one flabbergasted). So pleased to meet you. Collectively, we've spent 35 years parenting five fierce, neurodivergent humans, along with teaching, writing, publishing, and teaming up to advocate for our larger community. Recognizing and sitting in the impossibly hard truths as well as peeing our pants laughing and delighting over these same truths are what keep us upright. Thanks for visiting! We couldn't be more pleased that you found us.
Carol, Michigan
“The world is a better place because of this work you ladies are doing. I found myself feeling very emotional and relating to your episode on isolation and I do not have children with disabilities. Thank you so much for using your talents to help create more understanding for this community of valuable people!”
Amy, Colorado
“Congratulations on your new podcast! I’m so wowed by you! In the past nine months it’s become apparent to me that my daughter and I are both Autistic. Thank you for sharing your stories with the world and for helping even more people than you both already have!”
Mary Kay, Michigan
"I love your juxtaposition of hilarious and hard, and the discussion of dignity, and the partnership expressed in “The Last Word”. So fine. So heart engaging. So refreshing. So present to those who may feel alone. It’s all “grace” for ruffled souls. With delight and encouragement on your venture!"
Jana, Oregon
"My long lost best friends! I just stumbled upon your podcast this morning and I have a feeling it will be life changing for me. I feel so seen! I have 3 kiddos, 2 of them are neurodiverse and we live in a very high functioning, sports driven community. While everyone is participating in soccer, football and cheerleading teams and birthday parties, here we are attending physical therapy, occupational therapy, talk therapy, all the therapies just trying to make it through the school day without any crisis and tolerating people. It is SO isolating and I have been feeling so low this weekend and like a failure of a parent, and then I hear your podcast and I’m able to laugh and feel more understood." Thank you!!!
We appreciate financial contributions (not deductible) to help support our podcasting efforts. Thank you!
We appreciate financial contributions (not deductible) to help support our podcasting efforts. Thank you!
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